J.M.: You didn’t set out to make a career in film but simply had these ideas for images which you wanted to put sound to, which ended up as finished film works.
J.T.: That was one of the things that drew me to using moving images, the fact that you could work with sound. The story was, my uncle died and one of the things he left me was his 8mm camera and that’s the one I made my first film ‘Transfer’ with. It was about cross-dressing and people’s sexuality; coupled with things you were into at the time, which was drug taking. This room that we’re in used to be my studio and still is in a way, there was a cutting room and editing bench right down one wall, with a big screen at the far end. There was also a section cordoned off and used as a projection booth and right down the bottom was a sound dubber with a little four track and mixing desk. ‘Shell Shock Rock’ was done in this room, by the time I got to make that, it was relatively sophisticated down here. Prior to that I had made loads and loads of little things, trying to learn how to do things, like holding something in sync. You would have a little L.E.D reader, which was hooked up to the pulse on the tape recorder, which flashed behind the perforations of the film going into the machine. The air raid shelter which is behind the house here was where I used to put people, God love them, to do voice-overs. People don’t believe how technically difficult it was, and that was only in the mid 1970s.
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